Posted by: bklunk | November 14, 2006

Rome Speaks on Immigration Issues

Vatican Official Criticizes U.S. Border Fence Plan – New York Times

ROME, Nov. 14 — A top Vatican
official called the Bush administration’s plans for hundreds of miles
of new security fences on the United States-Mexico border “inhuman.”

“Speaking
of borders, I must unfortunately say that in a world that greeted the
fall of the Berlin Wall with joy, new walls are being built between
neighborhood and neighborhood, city and city, nation and nation,” said
Cardinal Renato Martino, according to news agency reports.

Cardinal Martino, who heads the Vatican’s Council for Justice and Peace, was presenting Pope Benedict XVI’s message for the Roman Catholic Church’s World Day of Migrants and Refugees at a news conference today.

When
he was asked specifically about the plan to construct 700 more miles of
border security fences in the Southwest, Cardinal Martino offered
praise for the Catholic bishops in Mexico and the United States who
have spoken against it. He called the plan “an inhuman program, which
is what the construction of that wall and all others is,” according to
Reuters.

Is building a border fence really a human rights issue? 

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  1. I strongly believe that a security measure, such as the fence being built along the U.S-Mexico border should not have to be considered a human rights issue at all. I think what people have to realize in a situation like this is that America is not shutting its doors to immigrants…LEGAL immigrants. There is no “fence” when it comes to a person trying to leaglly gain citizenship in this country. The United States has been more than fair in accepting people of all different cultures and ethnicities into its borders, however those who cross our border illegally take rights away from those who would do so legitimately. To refer to this program as “inhuman” is jumping off the deep end. I think it needs to be left up to the United States as to how it needs to deal with a situation that has clearly become out of control within the past few years. I think that building this fence is fair, and as long as security guards don’t get out of control or trigger-happy with anything that moves along the border, the fence tactic should be implemented. I fully understand that some people are simply looking for better opportunities and a better life for themselves and perhaps their families, but there are millions of people who have gone through the process of becoming citizens or permanent residents. What is this showing these people if we allow our borders to be flooded with illegal aliens who clearly don’t care about what America truly stands for?

  2. The main reason for the fences is to prevent a breech in national security. I agree with the last comment the U.S. government and the Bush Administration is trying to protect the citizens of the United States. Then fences are not going to be put up to prevent people from coming into the country, they are there to make sure people who want to enter the U.S. do so in the appropriate manner. Since 9/11 in has become a necessity to put a great deal of focus on national security, and preventing illegal aliens from entering the country is a necessary action. I have no problem with people from Mexico or any country coming into the U.S., but if they do so they should have to obey the law and pay taxes like the rest of us. This is not even close to an inhumane act, and I respect the Vatican and everyone in it, but times change and we must adapt.

  3. I strongly disagree with Cardinal Martino. Obviously he doesn’t know the serious issues that could arise if we just let our borders be free. And after all he is a Cardinal not a Political Scientists. If every person living in America likes the way of living (and i am sure the answer is yes because the whole world admires the luxuries, freedom, and consumerism that the US has)then they would support a stronger border. There are serious problems even with the amount of immigration we have now. Hospitals on the US-Mexico border are going bankrupt because of illegal immigrants getting free health care. and even if we took the ‘illegal’ part off it wouldn’t make a differnce. Having a border is a matter of National Security. Several thousands cross the border each day and most of the are carrying backpacks. who is not to say the a memeber of a terrorist group would fly to mexico with Anthrax or bombs or whatever and bring it across the border. and let’s not forget all the illegal drugs that cross the border that way too. if he had any sense at all then he would understand why it has to be like that. i wonder what he would say if all the illegal immigrants we sent over to rome?

  4. I strongly disagree with Cardinal Martino. Obviously he doesn’t know the serious issues that could arise if we just let our borders be free. And after all he is a Cardinal not a Political Scientists. If every person living in America likes the way of living (and i am sure the answer is yes because the whole world admires the luxuries, freedom, and consumerism that the US has)then they would support a stronger border. There are serious problems even with the amount of immigration we have now. Hospitals on the US-Mexico border are going bankrupt because of illegal immigrants getting free health care. and even if we took the ‘illegal’ part off it wouldn’t make a differnce. Having a border is a matter of National Security. Several thousands cross the border each day and most of the are carrying backpacks. who is not to say the a memeber of a terrorist group would fly to mexico with Anthrax or bombs or whatever and bring it across the border. and let’s not forget all the illegal drugs that cross the border that way too. if he had any sense at all then he would understand why it has to be like that. i wonder what he would say if all the illegal immigrants we sent over to rome? common sense here people.

  5. I definitely agree with the other posters; this is not an inhumane act whatsoever. It is our right as a nation to take certain measures for our own national security and this is certainly not a situation in which we are trying to say that we don’t want any immigrants at all, it’s just that the immigrants must take all of the legal and fair steps in becoming a US citizen and living and working within our borders. I think this is not only an issue of fairness in that it would be unfair to all of those people that have gone through the legalization process and it’s also not only an issue of national security, rather, it’s an economic one. There have been many cases of illegal immigrants being hired because employers are able to pay them below minimum wage and therefore since they’re cutting costs, they’re increasing their profits. This, however, damages the labor force and job openings to legal immigrants and other US citizens since the work (and money, too) is going to illegal aliens. Not only that, but is life really better for an illegal immigrant in the US, better than they had it in their own country? It could be argued both ways, however, I would tend to say that it’s really not and I couldn’t imagine it’s everything any of them have dreamed it would be. Sure they can end up making money to send back to their families, but think of the opportunites illegal aliens have in general-not many without the likelihood of being caught and deported. And the living conditions? Not good. Maybe overall this is not just an issue that the US should be addressing, but Mexico as well in that there should be more of an effort to reduce the poverty level and increase lower-level or lower-skill jobs in order to keep more of their people within their own borders.

  6. I don’t disagree that something should be done, but is putting up a wall the best way to do that. Did a wall keep people from trying to cross over in Berlin? No, they just got shot attempting to do so. Is putting up a wall in Israel going to keep all suicide bombers out? Probably not. Putting up a wall to keep people out doesn’t mean that they won’t try to cross anyway; it just takes a little more work to do so. The lengths that people are willing to go to in order to make their dreams become reality will just become all the more dangerous. While building a wall may not be a human rights voilation, the things that could potentially happen as a result are. That’s where the area of concern is and the pope probably has some sort of recollection of the events that took place in Germany when the Berlin Wall was in place.

  7. It seems like the Vatican these days are just talking left and right without really knowing what they are saying. It started with Pope Benedict XVI putting down Muslims, whether that was his intention or not. I believe that the remarks made by the Pope were not intended to be taken so literal, but it hard for me to believe that there was not some underlying message there. I think that the Pope and his officials need to remember what they purpose is and that to me is spreading Catholicism in peaceful and harmonious manner. I am having a hard time seeing the correlation between the security fence that the Bush Administration is proposing and the Berlin Wall. To me it seems like two completely different barriers that were or are being created on completely different grounds. No one is being treated inhumanly; it simply is a fence that keeps illegal immigrants out of the United States. There are laws and legislations that are in place for people to become legal citizens of the United States and that is the way people should become US citizens. The fence is not harming anyone, it is only enforcing the law and regulations that free people of this country live by.

  8. Though I disagree with Cardinal Martino that the building of the fence along the border is morally wrong, I disagree with the general thrust of a number of the posts thus far, which essentially regard religion as something to be relegated to the sidelines during societal debate. No, Cardinal Martino is no political scientist, nor is the Church essentially a political institution, but unless we regard every societal decision as entirely political, without moral or spiritual components, then we ought not toss aside the voice of the Church. If we are to take the position that decisions should be based not simply on utility, but also upon a respect for fundamental truths concerning human dignity, then we ought to hear from the institution that for so long has been the voice in defense of human dignity. In my opinion Cardinal Martino got this one wrong, but he is not wrong for believing the Church has much to say to our world, in spiritual, moral and practical dimensions.

  9. I agree that building a fence is not a human rights issue. However, while most people feel that illegal immigrants are taking away jobs and rights of legal immigrants and American citizens, I disagree.

    Yes, illegal immigrants are willing to take jobs that pay low wages, but they are taking these jobs because Americans don’t want to take them because the wages they are paid are too low. If our government raised minimum wage to a livable wage these Americans could take these jobs, which would cause the demand for low wage employees to diminish creating a reduction in illegal immigration because there wouldn’t be as many low-wage job opportunities. And what about those Americans that lose jobs to outsourcing by American companies? We should take the time to realize that it truly isn’t the illegal immigrants that are the issue in regards to job loss, it is the American companies. They want to pay the lowest wage possible whether that is to an illegal immigrant or someone overseas.

    Also, take into account that a lot of these illegal immigrants get jobs in sweatshops housed in the U.S., which is a human rights issue. Maybe instead of spending billions of dollars on a fence because we’re worried about keeping illegal immigrants out, we should spend that money on getting rid of sweat shops and working on providing our poorest citizens with jobs that pay livable wages and provide health care.

  10. I think that having to build a fence along the boarder is unfortunate, but as a matter of national security it is also necessary. Sure the funds for its construction were allocated, but will it really be built? Only time will tell. I don’t see how building the wall in inhuman though. It seems better than posting armed guards across the entire boarder. Something needs to be done in an effort to bolster security, better this than nothing.


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