Posted by: bklunk | April 18, 2007


Fifty years into the process of European integration, it may be a bit late to ask whether the EU is fundamentally “worth it.”  Gerry seems to have more sense on this one than EU Referendum.

EU creates more problems than it causes « Gerry’s International Relations

According to the EU Referendum, the European Union is a completely useless entity. This blog state that a recent addition of new monetary laws is just another example of their inability to function properly. There have been many recent cases of money laundering, much related to drugs, and the EU has tried to fix the problem with new laws. These make it more difficult for bank accounts to be opened and makes the transferring of money more time consuming in order to verify the accounts and where it is going. It is understandable that the European Union would want to stop these action, but according to this blog, the laws make it difficult for even city clubs to do their banking. I am not knowledgeable about exactly what is happening in the situation or the laws they have created, but I am not sure if this is the correct response. I am also not an economist, so I do not know what kind of effect this will have on the economy. I do not agree with the blogger that the EU is pointless. Every government makes mistakes, and I think that the EU has done more good than harm.

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  1. I think that the EU is a good organization and fairly effective in its work and its mission. One of the greatest successes of the EU was the implementation of the Euro. Today, the euro is symbol of the economic strength of Europe as a whole, and its ability to unite in order to secure and promote economic success. The EU unites Europe politically, something essential in a region where so many nations are so close together. Because of custom unions and the common market created by the EU, every country in Europe is a stronger nation. Countries in Europe are united to each other, and bound to each other through the EU. Together, European countries have been able to become more economically prosperous as a region.

  2. Yeah I also agree with this author of this blog and the previous responder. The person that claimed that the EU causes more problems than it causes, I think that his opinion is wrong. Very simply, if they are creating so many problems, than why are most countries in Europe, part of the EU, and most of the others, including Turkey, want to join? I don’t think that everyone would want to join the EU if all it did was cause problems. The EU has had great success with the creating and implementation of the Euro, as the Dan in the blog above me points out. And if there is so many problems in the EU, why don’t some of its member countries just pull out of it?

  3. Although the economic and social rules instituted by the governments of the European Union may not be perfect, and may not be perfectly enforced all the time, it seems that it is rather a stretch to say that the European Union is “pointless.” Since the advent of the EU, and with its recent growth, the European Union is a strong competitor in world markets and influence internationally. Just as the above respondents have pointed out, if the member states of the European Union felt that the EU was pointless, they would probably pull out. It seems that, because France, Germany, and others are so intent on building cooperation (although they necessarily still have issues with the EU), that it does have real value to the states that are members. We should also keep in mind that the EU, in its present form, is relatively new, and perhaps these issues will be dealt with in the years to come. Also, the worldview of the EU is still fairly positive: there are still states that want to join, and the EU member states have influence worldwide that they would perhaps not enjoy were they not united in the EU.

  4. Blurting out that the EU is “Pointless” is a bit of a stretch, and seems like a statement that did not have a whole lot of true thought put behind it. Like Haley posted, it is a very strong competitor in world markets, and does have great international influence. No it is by no means perfect, because quite honestly, what is? I consider it to still be a very new institution. The EU was only established in 1992 with the Masstricht Treaty making it fifteen years old, or else you could say that it is fifty years old since 1957, counting the EEC as the original form of the institution. Either way, it is still fairly new, and is still growing. Compare it to the Constitution. This is a governing document that has been around for a few hundred years, yet it has gone through many changes, and every day it is being questioned. So when looking at the EU, something international, and far more elaborate than the Constitution, you could imagine that it would take awhile for it to find it’s perfect fit into tohe puzzle.

    In regards to the alleged money laundering and drugs…well I don’t mean to be a pessimist but that is nothing new, even in governments. While it may be a minor problem, or something that has happened, I doubt that it is plaguing the EU, and causing it not function. There are many good things resulting from the EU, and as previously mentioned, the Euro is one of them. It is the closest thing to a world currency, and I think it was and is an important step.

    So is the EU perfect? By all means, no. But is it pointless? I think not.

  5. Although I do not agree that the EU is pointless or useless, I do believe that we, as in the U.S. and the international community, should keep a close watch in the direction it is heading. A 2005 issue The Economist stated that the EU has indicated discrimination toward Muslims. Furthermore, in “The Muslim Threat,” Esposito wrote, “Anti-Arab/Muslim sentiment in Western Europe is part of a growing combination Islamaphobia and xenophobia.” This is evident in Germany where many Turkish immigrants have sought job opportunities. Germany stated that the Turkish Muslims were creating unemployment and economic instability, but The Economist stated that economic issues were the not the cause of frustration in Germany, rather the increased Muslim populations.
    As Turkey, a country that is 98 % Muslim, attempts to enter into the EU, it is important to scrutinize the intentions of EU politicians. If Turkey’s membership is not handled properly, and it is evident that the EU countries are xenophobic, then the Union will become useless as it potentially creates ethnic conflicts between Europeans and Muslims already living in the countries such as France, Germany, and Britain.

  6. I would completely disagree in saying that the EU is pointless. First, this is an area of the world that for many centuries was dominated by war and revolt. Europe has been an extremely peaceful place since the creation of the EU, and the EU probably does deserve some credit for this. It has connected the countries of Europe in such a war that attacking your neighbor would have devastating effects not just for the attacked but also for the attacker.

    Second, the EU has helped the economies of many of its members improve. Ireland is a great example. Ireland has benefited greatly from the membership in the EU and saw an amazing improvement in the economy.

    Third, the EU gives much more power to Europe as a whole. There is no way that Germany or France or any European country would be able to compete with the United States or have the same level of influence. The EU makes Europe a much more powerful region.

    To say that the EU is pointless is extremely pessismistic. The European Union has done many great things and has given this area of the world opportunities that would not be available at the individual state level. Yes, the EU is not perfect but neither is the U.S. or any country for that matter. It should also be considered that the EU is a relatively new phenomenon, and it will take time to see the true potential of the European Union.

  7. I agree with this blogger that the EU isn’t completely pointless, but I do think that the EU really needs to keep a check on all of its functions to make sure that they are working properly and beneficially. I think that the new stricter monetary laws are in good intention and seem to be a logical solution to the problem, but in practice I don’t quite know if they are the best solution. Making the process tougher to get through may be more protective and secure, but, like it was said in the post, it will make the ordinary everyday business of legitimate companies throughout the European Union. This will discourage some entrepreneurs from starting new businesses within the EU and they could bring their ideas elsewhere where there are less strict restraints. As a solution to the problem of money laundering within the EU, I think there needs to be a more extensive check and balance of money within the system instead of creating more laws for the public that will impair the advancement of general businesses. There needs to be accountability within the EU itself so that inspiring entrepreneurs are not discouraged.

  8. I agree with the author on the statement that the EU is not necessarily useless simply because it makes a few bad laws. There are countless examples of laws that have been passed in the US that have eventually been taken off the books either due to conflicting with the constitution or the rights it guarantees, or simply because they are pointless and no longer hold any meaning, such as the law that states that you cannot enter Wisconsin from Minnesota with a duck above your head. That makes no sense to us now but at the time it did, just like the new EU law. It may not make a lot of sense to us now, but the EU’s rational for the law may hold validity through another set of eyes.

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